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22-08-2004 06:50 AM
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My husband and I have just returned from a weeks holiday in Portugal.
We were stopped in the street when we were looking for a taxi in Quarteira at the market and given out a scratch card each.
Would you credit it, we had won the star prize - £400 cash, a dream holiday or a camcorder.
The girl - who claimed she was working for first choice holidays - told us we would have to claim the prize at their main office at a location halfway between Vilamoura (where we were staying) and Albufeira but that they would pay for our taxi there and back.
We got to the location and were given drinks and the hard sell.
At first we told them we were not willing to pay the £4k that they wanted us to and they reduced the price to £2k for a 3 year trial period and after the 3 years we would get 80% of the £2k back.
(For this we were getting 2 weeks holiday a year at either a 4 or 5 star accomodation, anywhere in the world, for £76 for a studio flat with flights only £105 each. Also we had access to their special deals on the internet where we could book holidays for our friends and families at extremely good prices. We also had a years membership with this to Leisure Alliance where they ran good prices for green fees for golf which appealed to my husband as he's a keen golfer. SOUNDS GOOD DOESN'T IT)
After that we could then, if we wanted to, reinvest the £1600 and have a lifetime membership where we would get 4 weeks a year plus all the specials.
We thought about it and told them it sounded like a good deal but we would have to think about it. She told us that this offer was only valid whilst we were there and she dangled the ultimate carrot. A two week all inclusive holiday to Kenya for £500 that we could take anytime.
Well, we thought that sounded great and decided to go for it.
We paid the deposit of £215 by credit card (which they told would take 10-14 days approx to hit our account - it came off the day after we were there!)and told them we would arrange the finance ourselves for the balance once we got home.
Once we signed up, my husband and I came home and had a talk and between us voiced a few concerns.
I researched the company on the internet when we arrived back yesterday and lo and behold, it looks like it's a scam. (www.crimeshare.net
http://www.crimeshare.net/
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Does anyone out there know if they can actually hold us to the agreement that we have signed and what are the chances of us getting our deposit back.
Also, has anyone actually signed up for this and found out it was genuine.
Post Continued: http://www.holidaywatchdog.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737
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thegoose
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10-10-2004 07:13 PM
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Joined: 10 Oct 2004
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| more info required on getting deposit back from club class hoidays, we have just been to portugal and paid £675 for administration and membership. This was taken from my card on the day that we registered. Again this was done on impulse and the lady who sold this to us was Kim, who was south african. After reading of others experiences we have no intention of paying the £5900 complete membership.
Be aware we were sucked in! Anymore info on this would be more than appreciated. Would like to know more about the 7 day cooling off period law regarding signing a contract away from business premise.
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baggage
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11-10-2004 09:05 AM
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Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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| Not too sure of the legal implications but I'm sure it was a good idea to pay with your credit card as you have more chance of getting a refund if you are in some way duped - after all the credit card companies have to bear some responsibility for giving this bunch the means of taking credit card payments in the first place.
Another thing you should watch out for on these scratch card scams is that if you are walking along a couple of paces apart they (the sellers) spot this and give a losing ticket to your other half of other people in your group then hey presto they give a "winning" one out and make a big fuss about it saying how it can't be a scam if everyone else all have losing ones. Then comes the hard sell - remember the only scratch cards you should ever trust are the ones you have to buy from an official outlet i.e., equilivant to the national lottery.
Sorry that you have been taken in - it nearly happend to us too
perhaps its the sun, sea and being on holiday our usual common sense
seems to leave us when we have been on a sunbed all day.
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timsue
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09-12-2004 11:18 PM
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Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| We have also just returned from San Jao in the Algarve and are also worried we may have been the victim of the Club Class Holiday scam. We were just walking in the street, when we were given a scratch card which ofcourse was a winner. We were then wisked off the street in a waitng vehicle, to a hotel which club class holidays on a window inside a room. We signed forms to buy on finance and dd details. We did not have a deposit as luckily our credit card had expired, although we met up with a Canadian called Gary from club class & gave him £100 cash. I suppose really we were lucky that we did not have more on us as he wanted a deposit of £500 can anyone advise us are we legally obliged to honour this contract?
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slowcoach
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12-12-2004 11:40 AM
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Joined: 13 Oct 2004
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| Hi, Just to add my twopenthworthto this thread of cons. If by some chance I get collared by anyone selling me something I say I'm bankrupt and have no bank account. Amazing how they lose interest in you!!!
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15-12-2004 01:49 PM
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Joined: 15 Dec 2004
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| Wednesday 15th December 2004
Just got on the net this morning as our resort was off the main grid last night due to storms. We“re in Tenerife and were accosted in the same manner with scratch cards, etc.. yesterday in Los Americas, Tenerife.
We drank a free bottle of champagne, were told that the cash prize that we might have won couldn“t be handed out in cash and had to be put on one of our cards. Small tingle. Apparently the police didn“t want any of the public endangered by walking out with large sums of Euro in pocket.
"20 - 800 Euro". Also this wasn“t being offered to the “public“ as such and could only be obtained here in Tenerife.
A long presentation (2.5 hrs) adnauseum. We were told 60 minutes of our time. We were exhausted after spending the day in the car and were promised a cuppa and that was enough to get us in there.... anyway, she showed us a professional looking website and many advertisements in brochures and “newspapers“, showed us their resorts (4* - 5* only) in other peoples brochures *tingle* .
Finally, being somewhat abrupt, we asked them to cut to the chase (yawn) and 20 minutes later, being told over again what we“d already been told, a figure was put forward of 100 uk pounds a month for 51 months and a deposit each of 55 uk pounds.
When we told them we wanted to sleep on it (we were seriously concidering it!) they blew the whole thing by insisting they were closing for Christmas, that they would have to open the office specially for us the next day when we suggested coming back and if they had known we were not going to sign that day they would not have wasted their “precious time“. *duh *** WAKE UP!! *
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Going to find out now if there is someone we can alert here in Tenerife to put a stop to this scam.
%$%"·&/&"·$"·%!!!
What a waste of an afternoon. Educative though, we“re first timers with scammers.
Good luck all!
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mr.gullible
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24-07-2007 02:32 PM
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Joined: 24 Jul 2007
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| We were caught out by CCH in Tenerife back in Aug.2000. We did get a small proportion of our payment back after 5 years (about £1800, I think, of the original £7900) and assumed that was that. On Friday, I had a call from a re-sale agent who wanted to 'sell on' our entitlement to someone else for £3500- all we had to do was make an admin payment of £750 to the agent & they would credit our account with the £3500. I told them we couldn't afford to pay the fee & it was magically reduced to £400; by this time alarm bells were ringing so i terminated the call. Has anyone else recently had a similar experience ?
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diddydi
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24-07-2007 05:09 PM
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Joined: 26 Jun 2007
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| do not believe any of it they will contact you nearer the cash back time to tell you that they will need more money from you to try and get your money back one big scam valorford
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Fred 2
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25-07-2007 05:53 PM
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Mr Gullible - The intended fraud which you mention is so obvious you have to wonder why they try it on. "Obtaining money by deception" is the offence I think. Are you able to post the name of this so-called "resale agent" - address, phone number and so on? Each bit of information helps.
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Fred 2
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26-07-2007 03:12 PM
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Diddydi - my only contact is through the forum. I did wonder how he managed to get some money back. He must have been one of the .002% of people who did everything right! If you don't do that you have no chance at all - and anyone who says that they can improve your chances for a fee is out to defraud you.
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