It needs pointing out that many of these "class actions" are scams and they are easy to distinguish because if there is a necessity to "visit premises and meet a consultant" then that is a sure sign of a scam.
This one looks genuine and it would be interesting to hear from anyone who has been in contact.
PLEASE READ.!!! TIMESHARE & HOLIDAY CLUBS
by wingiwong on Tue Nov 03, 2009 18:03 pm
Hi, can anyone help me please! I wrote earlier regarding the Holiday Club Scam my parents were caught up in - Incentive Leisure Group, DWVC, Reclaim, Club Class Concierge and Key Properties Town Advisory.
Since writing I have contacted my parent's Credit Card Company and yesterday my parents had £6,000 put back into their bank account re Incentive Leisure Group and today they have had just over £1,000 but back in re Key Properties Town Advisory. I'm thrilled but they do have 45 days to contest this.
Now, today, I have been contacted by Gail Hughes again from KPTA and a company calling themselves First Legal. KPTA told me that had been contacted by my parents' Credit Card Company and now Gail Hughes is trying to tell me they are working hard on getting the monies back for my parents and need me to verify such so that she can inform the Credit Card Company. She said they are not scam and not to believe anything written on the forum sites. Can anyone help me as to what to do now. They are phoning me back in the morning as I said I hadn't got time to deal with it at that moment. I look forward to hearing from anyone with some advice please. Regards.
Since writing I have contacted my parent's Credit Card Company and yesterday my parents had £6,000 put back into their bank account re Incentive Leisure Group and today they have had just over £1,000 but back in re Key Properties Town Advisory. I'm thrilled but they do have 45 days to contest this.
Now, today, I have been contacted by Gail Hughes again from KPTA and a company calling themselves First Legal. KPTA told me that had been contacted by my parents' Credit Card Company and now Gail Hughes is trying to tell me they are working hard on getting the monies back for my parents and need me to verify such so that she can inform the Credit Card Company. She said they are not scam and not to believe anything written on the forum sites. Can anyone help me as to what to do now. They are phoning me back in the morning as I said I hadn't got time to deal with it at that moment. I look forward to hearing from anyone with some advice please. Regards.
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by Full Monty on Tue Nov 03, 2009 21:59 pm
You are getting your money back from the credit card company having been scammed by these companies. Some people are not so fortunate.
When they call again simply ask for everything to be put in writing then put the telephone down.
Do you understand that? Put the telephone down. These people LIE for a living.
When they call again simply ask for everything to be put in writing then put the telephone down.
Do you understand that? Put the telephone down. These people LIE for a living.
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by wingiwong on Tue Nov 03, 2009 22:19 pm
Full Monty - thank you for your reply I was hoping you would be "on line" tonight!!! I know my parents were very fortunate in getting their monies back and it all came as quite a shock as we never thought it would happen. I've got to say I worked really hard on their behalf, it almost took over my life, but it paid off in the end. A message to anyone in the same situation - "DON'T GIVE UP" just keep pestering!
Thank you for your advice. I will do just that and put the phone down, although she told me to ring her! Gail Hughes has just sent me loads of stuff by email to show the work they are doing but quite frankly all it is is scanned documents from newspaper cuttings regarding Incentive Leisure being a scam company. I could have scanned the documents myself and sent them to her after all you only have to do a google search! There are no letters of real relevance that you would expect from a Lawyer!
The only problem we still have is we still have the timeshare! I have been on to the FNTC to get the timeshare transfered into ILG's name and they're right on the brink of signing. I've been holding my breath! Perhaps they won't sign now that the credit card company have reimbursed us!
Thank you for your advice. I will do just that and put the phone down, although she told me to ring her! Gail Hughes has just sent me loads of stuff by email to show the work they are doing but quite frankly all it is is scanned documents from newspaper cuttings regarding Incentive Leisure being a scam company. I could have scanned the documents myself and sent them to her after all you only have to do a google search! There are no letters of real relevance that you would expect from a Lawyer!
The only problem we still have is we still have the timeshare! I have been on to the FNTC to get the timeshare transfered into ILG's name and they're right on the brink of signing. I've been holding my breath! Perhaps they won't sign now that the credit card company have reimbursed us!
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by wingiwong on Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:20 am
Hi, A WARNING!! Since getting money back from Credit Card Company. I've been contacted by not only Gail Hughes at Key Properties Town Advisory S L but also another company claiming to do the same as KPTA, get money back from scam Club Class Holidays. They are FIRST LEGAL SERVICES in Spain. A lady called Vivienne phoned regarding Club Class Concierge saying they were taking them to court. She of course wanted money up front for translation costs. I questioned the money up front bit and she said that as I wasn't a tax payer in Spain then I would have to pay up front. Yeh right...I'm going to fall into that trap again. Anyway I let her go on and she's emailing me info on her Company (only because I'm nosey)! Please be warned THIS IS ANOTHER SCAM COMPANY! Don't part with any money. I tihnk they're all part of the same Company. Strange how they both ring on the same day desperate to speak to me... after I've got some money back. Maybe it's because KPTA have 45 days to contest our refund.
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by toe-dippers on Fri Nov 06, 2009 13:42 pm
Hi Wingiwong,
Having just had a negative experience at Bel Air, Tenerife, we are very cautious about everything and everybody, unfortunately - or fortunately, possibly.
How can you check whether a company is bona fide or not?
Toe-dipper
Having just had a negative experience at Bel Air, Tenerife, we are very cautious about everything and everybody, unfortunately - or fortunately, possibly.
How can you check whether a company is bona fide or not?
Toe-dipper
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by wingiwong on Fri Nov 06, 2009 16:51 pm
Hi toe-dippers
You could always check with TATOC (Timeshare Association (Timeshare Owners & Committees) Ltd). They have a list of reputable companies that would sell your timeshare without cold calling. Just check out their website www.tatoc.co.uk.
A quote from an email I received from TATOC:-
"TATOC is a consumer-based Association formed as a non-profit company in 1989. Their principle objective is to safeguard and enhance the timeshare holiday experience for existing and prospective users, and to be the voice of timeshare owners."
A quote taken from TATOC website:-
"One of the current scams that TATOC has received a significant number of complaints about is the resale scam. Timeshare owners are being targeted by fraudsters who are offering to sell their weeks for them. The victims are being asked to pay upfront fees for any number of reasons and then hear nothing more from the scammers - no sales, no refunds.
Others are duped into parting with upfront cash - often hundreds or even thousands of pounds - only to find that the supposed buyer has dropped out of the deal. They are then lured to a foreign country to meet a "corporate buyer" who is interested in buying their week.
However, when the owners arrive at their destination they usually find that the corporate buyer is really a sales person who subjects them to a hard-sell presentation for a bogus Holiday Pack.
TATOC strongly recommends that consumers only deal with resale companies who are affiliated to TATOC and/or are members of the Resort Development Organisation (RDO)."
I hope this helps. Basically, never give money up front however nice and charming they are on the phone!!!!
You could always check with TATOC (Timeshare Association (Timeshare Owners & Committees) Ltd). They have a list of reputable companies that would sell your timeshare without cold calling. Just check out their website www.tatoc.co.uk.
A quote from an email I received from TATOC:-
"TATOC is a consumer-based Association formed as a non-profit company in 1989. Their principle objective is to safeguard and enhance the timeshare holiday experience for existing and prospective users, and to be the voice of timeshare owners."
A quote taken from TATOC website:-
"One of the current scams that TATOC has received a significant number of complaints about is the resale scam. Timeshare owners are being targeted by fraudsters who are offering to sell their weeks for them. The victims are being asked to pay upfront fees for any number of reasons and then hear nothing more from the scammers - no sales, no refunds.
Others are duped into parting with upfront cash - often hundreds or even thousands of pounds - only to find that the supposed buyer has dropped out of the deal. They are then lured to a foreign country to meet a "corporate buyer" who is interested in buying their week.
However, when the owners arrive at their destination they usually find that the corporate buyer is really a sales person who subjects them to a hard-sell presentation for a bogus Holiday Pack.
TATOC strongly recommends that consumers only deal with resale companies who are affiliated to TATOC and/or are members of the Resort Development Organisation (RDO)."
I hope this helps. Basically, never give money up front however nice and charming they are on the phone!!!!
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