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sgja
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01-04-2008 09:38 PM
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Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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| Hi we were wondering whether any one knows of a company who can infact help us to seel our week in the Macdonald Leila Playa.
We have tried to sell through the Macdonald company without any luck.
Have been contacted byTS013 who after reading the items on here I want to stay well clear off.
We do not want to make a fortune just want to have something back rather than paying another maintenance fee when we are not using the timeshare week due to my husband now having a phobia with flying.
any bodies help will be appreciated.
thanks
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Fred 2
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01-04-2008 11:29 PM
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 1853
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| You could look at the information on Timesharetalk where some reliable sellers are discussed. They also have a small-ad section. As a last resort you could try e-bay but you would have to be very realistic on price.
The one thing that you must never, ever do is deal with anyone who wants an up-front fee. If you are cold-called by anyone it may not be immediately obvious that this is what they are after, but if they think that you are interested you would probably be called and told that they have a buyer - then they ask for a "refundable" fee. ETOO for example do this. there are many others. There is no buyer, and the fees are never refunded. The alternative is that they say that there is a buyer and ask for your card number, saying that it will only be debited if you don't go through with the deal after they have had to pay out expenses. They would debit the card almost before you had put the phone down.
Anyone who wants you to go to see them is out to sell you a holiday club membership. There is no earthly reason why a timeshare sale cannot be dealt with by post.
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NOZACDOGS
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02-04-2008 02:24 PM
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Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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| have just been on phone to ILG i think it was in spain i have an appontment tomorow told him i had just read all the bad writeups about and he said most of it is fred 2 who works for another company of time share people is this right
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Jan.C
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02-04-2008 02:28 PM
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Joined: 08 Jan 2004
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| NO it certanly is NOT RIGHT.
Fred2 is here because of the demand we have by people who have been scammed and ripped off by these type of companies. He knows his stuff and has helped many members . He does not get paid for this, he does it just to help people out. I am sure he would appreciate the name and contact number of the sales person that gave you this information.
Jan
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My Latest Review: Aug 2008 Norton Lodge Hotel & Conference Centre, Norton Disney (10/10)
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Fred 2
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02-04-2008 02:43 PM
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Fred 2 is a retired accountant who lives in the UK and who has never worked in the holiday, holiday club or timeshare trade, owned a timeshare or been a member of a holiday club. I just have a dislike of people who con the public.
If you look at the relevant threads you will see that it is the actual "customers" complaining that they turned up at ILG (Spain and UK) on the promise that ILG would buy their timeshare. No strings mentioned. They found that they had to buy into a holiday club and that they would receive payment for the tiimeshare through cashback. They were it seems generally told that they would receive 100% of the amount. That is not true and it is entirely possible that you will, quite legally, receive absolutely nothing.
OK - so now make your own mind up about who is telling the truth.
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NOZACDOGS
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02-04-2008 02:47 PM
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Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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| here is the number i rang 08008830696 cannot remember the guys name
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redkite
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08-04-2008 02:04 PM
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Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Hi I am new to this and have no advice to offer to sgja however am in a similar predicament wanting shot of CLC points. we have 1600 and have been advised to look at OTE for resales where there is no fee up front! however they ask for a marketing refundable payment! from what I gather we should have nothing to do with anyone that charges these is that right!
So how trust worthy are the resales recommended by OTE and TMA?
I have been called back by Visions of the world has anyone dealt with them and if so what was the result?
we did contact timesharegetout which sounds I believe to be a bit shonky
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Fred 2
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08-04-2008 03:36 PM
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Timesharegetout sells holiday club memberships and "pays" for your timeshare &c with cashback. OK if you really want to end up thousands of pounds worse off and leave a smile on their faces! Otherwise, as you say, "shonky".
Don't know about Visions of the World (Jason Clowrey T/a Visions of The World) - site www.visionsoftheworld.co.uk/ was reg. 03 Dec 03. If it is a member of OTE then it should be better than many. The points seem to fetch very little on the open market and CLC charge a substantial transfer fee. If you are a member of e-bay you could look at completed sales of points to see what they have sold for.
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redkite
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08-04-2008 04:12 PM
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Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Thanks fred2 will have a look at what they are going for and see.
It seems to be a strange business unsure when we bought, but have had some great holidays, and worse when we try to get out. I think if we can sell I will be glad to be shot of them
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easely lead
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09-04-2008 02:10 PM
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Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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| hi we'er in the same boat .We bought points from clc ,big mistake and are now trying to get rid. we got conned by ilg (i'm ashamed to say)and
are in the process of trying to get our deposit back plus our clc certificate .They promised we would get the money (£18,000) through reclaim,which since reading this site seems hghly unlikly. Ihave read a lot of hepfull info on this site but can you tell me where Fred gets his information from ,as most of you probably no ,that when you speak to any of these people at ilg they say its not true and tie you up in knots with a load of : quote legalities and as I dont have any knowlege of how the law works regarding these matters I really dont know what to do for the best . Ihave read that some of ILG's VICTIMS have been threatened with legal action and balifs so they can get the rest of there money.I'm quit worred about this as we certainly dont have the money to fight this through the courts.This has upset us so much so that my
husband is on medication . so i would be really greatfull if some one could poit me in the right direction and i hope i have'nt offended Fred.
thanks easely lead
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aramis
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09-04-2008 07:00 PM
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Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Many Timeshare resort operators are quite genuine, even though expensive, but are tarnished by the sharks. Rather than going through a timeshare sales company, who may well be just another 'shark waiting for a victim', why not ask your resort to sell your week/points through their resale programme? You'll get a lot less than you paid, but at least will be dealing with someone you know. Some resorts keep resales available for buyers who reject the high cost of timeshare purchase.
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sgja
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10-04-2008 09:23 AM
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Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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| Hi thanks for mentioning the resort. However I placed it up for sale originlly with them sep 06 and not had one single enquiry.
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highlife
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06-06-2008 05:19 PM
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Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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| Hi Redkite,
Are you still willing to sell your 1600 CLC points?
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balanceuk
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26-06-2008 03:42 PM
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 7
| Hi, dont know if you are interested but I am selling my diamond membership, no silly offer but I will pay the transfer fee of £1000
Regards Jim
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balanceuk
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06-07-2008 02:12 PM
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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| Just for info we have taken selling our points out of our hands and have gone to a re-sale company. - Jim
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tsuser
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06-07-2008 03:38 PM
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Joined: 28 Apr 2008
Posts: 110
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| sgja,
Have you considered looking for internal exchanges through Macdonald? They have a number of resorts in the UK which could suit your needs with your husband's flying phobia.
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easely lead
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17-07-2008 09:51 PM
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Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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| hi its been a while ,but for any one who might be interested (we were coned by ilg)I followed the advice that fred gave regarding these con merchants and guess what we got our points certificate in the post last week , we did have to put up with them pestering us by phone from spain nearly every day for about afortnight though, so we just stopped answering it ,which was a bit inconvenent, but in the end they gave up .Then we got a few letters asking if we needed any help with the rest of the fiance? we chose to ignore these too, the last time we had any corispondece from them was about may , then as I've already said we got our certificate back last week. We are now waiting to see if we will get our deposit back as well , our credit card company is dealing with this and they have said that this takes a while,but at least we're done with ILG. We have really learn't a lesson from all this and I hope this has helped others who might be trying to sell their time share etc ,if any one wants any money from you for what ever reason, how ever good it might sound walk away or put the phone down BECAUSE IT'S BOUND TO BE A C.O.N I will let you know if we get our deposit back .
Not so easily lead any more
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LBR
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23-07-2008 07:38 PM
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Joined: 23 Jul 2008
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| SGJA asks if there are any legitimate companies who will buy your timeshare. The answer is yes, there are, but don't expect to be offered anything like the sort of figures being offered by the many scam merchants, most of whom have phoned me over the last three years using the same spiel as another one tried on me this afternoon!
I have successfully sold my mothers CLC Vacation Club points through the following company, which is entirely legit, based in Leamington Spa and a member of OTE. We did not have to pay any upfront fee and the transaction went through easily. And no. I do not have any other connection with this company...
They are:
Timeshare Computer Link Ltd.
01926 844242
www.timeshare.uk.net
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clematis
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24-07-2008 04:19 PM
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Joined: 24 Jul 2008
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| We were conned by ILG when we went to their office in Essex in June. We were told a pack of lies about maintenance fees and that we would be pursued by CLC if we did not pay and out children if any thing happened to us. We signed lots of papers including one that said we had no cooling off period. Fortunely for us, the card we used to pay the deposit did not go through as the system was down and we were able to put a stop on the card being used at a later date.
When we returned home we check the website and found that it was not all it was made up to be. We telephoned CLC and asked about the maintenace charges and what would happen if we did not pay and we were told "the membership would be suspended and should this happen CLC would not contact the member further". With this information we felt we were sold a product on a lie and set to cancel it.
We manage to stop the card being used for the deposit and then wrote to them cancelling the agreement.
I have had the OFT looking into this and the agreement that was reach with company in March 2005 inthat it was agreed amonst other things that a 7 day cooling off period too allow the prospective members to cancel the contract.
Today we have receved a letter to say that we are laible to honour this agreement and to contact them to arrange more flexible terms or indeed a compromise and to benifit from this goodwill to phone. This we have done and all they were doing is trying to sell amother package. We have declined and they are now going to pursue litigation at our expense.
Has anyone out there been taken to court over this. To date we have not lost any money having not paid the deposit. Also need to know the advice Fred gave to enable one party to get their certificate back.
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easely lead
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24-07-2008 10:20 PM
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Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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| Dear clematis please excuse me but am I right in thinking you are saying that ILG are the ones that have coned you ? if so Fred told us to contact office of fiartrading who in turn told us to contact time share association ,they told me to wright to ilg stating that we were cancelling due to the fact of missrepresentaion and we wanted our deposit back plus our CLC certificate.We then contacted our credit card company who are dealing with the deposit side of things, apparently this can take some time,they also told us to ignor any corrispondece and phone calls from ILG which we did ,we did get some letters from them and quite afew phone calls but after awhile they stop and eventually we got our CLC cirtificate back .Do ring the time share association they were very help full,they actually told me what to put in the letter .
good luck (not so ) easily lead
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